A response to Stewart Farber's libel of Russell Hoffman

To: RadiumProj@cs.com
From: "Russell D. Hoffman" <rhoffman@animatedsoftware.com>
Subject: A response to Stewart Farber's libel of Russell Hoffman
Cc: Steve@miltoxproj.org (Steve Taylor)

To: Stewart Farber, MS Public Health, Public Health Scientist, Radium Experiment Assessment Project - REAP, Director
Re: Your email to me (shown below)
Date: October 17th, 2001

Sir,

You are an expert in what, then, rocket-propelled grenades?   Multiple 767 attacks on nuke plants?  Evacuation planning?  Powder in three places within San Onofre's perimeter?  Economics of renewable energy?  Honest government?  Media access?  I mean, what exactly do you know that you feel confident that you can libel me so arrogantly without repercussions?

Sincerely,

Russell Hoffman
Concerned Citizen
Carlsbad, CA

P.S. Below are all our prior correspondences.  Note in your prior email where you sent me a definition of libel.  Since you sent your letter today to multiple people (at least to Steve Taylor of the Miltox project), even by your limited definition, you have LIBELED ME.  DO NOT ever write to me again under ANY circumstances.  (That is a legally-binding demand.)

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>>>>> At 08:48 AM 10/17/01 , STEWART FARBER RadiumProj@cs.com wrote: >>>>>

Russell:

If one person says you're a donkey, you can scoff at it. If two people say you're a donkey, you should question why it is being said. If three people say you're an ass, it's time to go out and get a saddle.

Your nuclear related postings are so ludicrous and generally so at odds with basic facts on nuclear matters that you are wasting everyone's time with your endless rants. As I've suggested to you before, you should stick with programming where you appear to have some skills and stop trying to pass yourself off as an expert in strategic, environmental, climatic, and economic aspects of nuclear energy, a subject about which you clearly know little to nothing. As the TV space alien character Alf once said: "Dogma, dogma, dog manure"

Have a great day,

Stewart Farber, MS Public Health
Public Health Scientist
Radium Experiment Assessment Project - REAP
Director
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In a message dated 10/17/01 4:58:09 AM Eastern Daylight Time, rhoffman@animatedsoftware.com writes:


Subj:[DOEWatch] Re: MTP List -- Just who exactly is complaining about my postings, Steve, or is that a big secret?
Date:10/17/01 4:58:09 AM Eastern Daylight Time
From:    rhoffman@animatedsoftware.com (Russell D. Hoffman)
To:    Steve@miltoxproj.org (Steve Taylor)




Date: October 16th, 2001
From: Russell Hoffman
To: Steve Taylor, Military Toxics Project
Re: MTP List -- Just who exactly is complaining about my postings, Steve,
or is that a big secret?

Steve,

As I have said many times, and as most people realize (except, apparently,
those on your list), the reason we have commercial nukes is because of the
military need for plutonium and other radioactive materials for
bombs.  Also to legitimize the use of nuclear reactors so that the Navy
could use them.  And to provide for an employment service for ex-Nuclear
Navy personnel.

There never has been a viable civilian nuclear power project at any time in
history.

Furthermore, the Yucca Mountain Project, if it's passed, will be about 30%
for military waste if I recall the number correctly (it's about that).  It
will all be transported across America's civilian transportation system.

Did I mention the military connection between NASA's Cassini and the Air
Force's nuclear spy satellites which orbit earth (believed to exist, but I
suppose there's really no proof)?

Right now, American civilians are being targeted at home, and our nukes are
the prime targets.  They are a legitimate target of war, too, because of
the military connection mentioned in the first paragraph.

The waste they produce is the most toxic stuff on earth.  The military has
been the most negligent in releasing nuclear waste to the environment,
including but not limited to two nuclear submarines and probably at least
one training reactor dumped unceremoniously into the Atlantic Ocean, as if
that's some form of safe burial.

So what ARE you talking about, Steve?  I didn't see any voting or opinions
posted on this issue.  Are you sure it's the opinion of the majority?

Well whatever.  I suppose you know the real reasons you are kicking me off,
whatever they are, so I hope you'll at least just have the courtesy to post
this letter, so that people on the list understand what actually happened
(and can voice their opinions publicly if they so choose), and so that they
know that these are the reasons I am not about to change, since obviously,
you are not going to reinstate me on the list if I don't.  And I won't.

Lastly, I find it fascinating that after all that talk about being open
about who might be a spook or who is acting like a spook, these " problems"
you say are occurring are NOT occurring in public, on the forum itself, but
in some sort of private communications with you.

That's pretty spooky.

Sincerely,

Russell Hoffman
Concerned Citizen
Carlsbad, CA

<<<<< END OF MOST RECENT LETTER FROM STEWART FARBER (OCT. 17th, 2001) <<<<<<

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>>>> A PRIOR MESSAGE FROM STEWART FARBER (SEPTEMBER 12th, 2001) >>>>>

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In a message dated 9/11/01 7:18:59 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
rhoffman@animatedsoftware.com writes:


Subj:[DOEWatch] The Sky(scraper) Is Falling -- Commentary by Russell D.
Hoffman
Date:9/11/01 7:18:59 PM Pacific Daylight Time
From:    rhoffman@animatedsoftware.com (Russell D. Hoffman)




September 11th, 2001

Fellow Citizens:

If I had told you, yesterday, that today two commercial airplanes, loaded
with passengers and fueled for cross-country flights, would crash into New
York City's World Trade Center, one into each of the twin tower buildings,
and that shortly thereafter both towers would come crashing to the ground,
and also told you that the Pentagon would be hit at about the same time,
and another plane would be brought down too, you would have called me
"Chicken Little".

America's nuclear power plants are vulnerable.  And don't call me Chicken
Little.



Russell:
You aren't just a chicken little. You are however without doubt a disturbed
and immoral individual to take advantage of the carnage today to make a
perverted argument against nuclear power. Scaremongers like yourself  pose
about being concerned about avoiding 0.01 mrem of radiation exposure 10,000
years in the future, from nuclear waste disposal, yet refuse to see that the
US's worsening dependence on imported oil and gas over the past 30 years,  
has led to wars and will lead to future wars over energy that will result in
countless thousands of deaths. Anti nuclear activists deserve credit for not
being able to see the strategic implications of energy supply.

Your now seizing on yesterday's events to make a cheap point is odious and
reprehensible.

You need professional help. I'm putting you on my e-mail lockout list since
your rantings and consistently worthless arguments aren't worth my time in
hitting my delete key for all of the foolish posts you make to DOEWatch. I
only hope that you begin to spend more time in productive programming work
where you have some clear expertise, since your endless, illogical, and truly
 paranoid posts on environmental and nuclear power matters have so little
technical merit. Your posts only serve to document your lack of scientific
training and balanced understanding of  radiation risk assessment,
environmental sciences, and public health.

Stewart Farber, MS Public Health
Radium Experiment Assessment Project -REAP
website: http://www.delphi.com/carsreap

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September 12th, 2001
Mr. Farber,

I know libel when I see it.  Your definition is incomplete.  However, I do find it fascinating that you (like Mr. Steadham, recently, before you) hide behind the idea that because you only sent your libel directly to me, you think you did not libel me!  That's a really, really weak excuse for such uncivil behavior.  When you say I'm on a jihad, Mr. Farber, it's libel.  When you say I'm "unbalanced" it's libel.  When you said...  Well, you get the idea.  Or at least you should.

Do not send me any more personal emails, ever.

Sincerely,

Russell Hoffman
Concerned Citizen
Logical Thinker
Activist
Carlsbad, CA

At 11:48 AM 9/12/01 , you wrote:
In a message dated 9/12/01 9:41:11 AM Pacific Daylight Time, rhoffman@animatedsoftware.com writes:


My response:

This guy is obviously a deluded pronuker, a proud member of the Nuclear Mafia in full support of his Demon Hot Atom. 


Russell:
Your "Demon Hot Atom" rhetoric could have come from Osama Bin Laden himself.
You appear as imbalanced in your jihad as the religious fundamentalists acting against the US yesterday.

There is no such thing as libel if my comments are true. As much as you may dislike reading my written remarks directed only to you, they are not libel. You need to appreciate what libel has a legal definition:


The 'Lectric Law Library's Lexicon On
* Libel *

LIBEL - Published material meeting three conditions: The material is defamatory either on its face or indirectly; The defamatory statement is about someone who is identifiable to one or more persons; and, The material must be distributed to someone other than the offended party; i.e. published; distinguished from slander.

NOTE:

I never sent my comments to anyone other than you. Your posting them to DOEWatch was your business since you seem to enjoy playing the victim.  From reading your posts, I have to say that you're a perfectly balanced individual. You have a big chip on both shoulders.

Although it is unlikely, I hope you come to rely less on dogma and more on science. As the TV character Alf once said: "Dogma, dogma, dog manure."

I am not employed in the nuclear power field. I derive no income from it. If you take a few minutes to read about my efforts [do a google search on "Stewart Farber"]  over the past 15 years as a public health scientist to force attention on the health risks of a real radiation issue [Nasal Radium Irradiation] that delivered several thousand rads to the nasopharynx of no fewer than 500,000 Americans [by inserting Radium-226 sealed sources into the nose] you'd see an issue that involves real radiation risks.

I've sacrificed my personal finances and spent countless thousands of hours to bring attention to a serious public health issue that has been ignored, misrepresented, or covered-up by major medical institutions and the US Government. By contrast, your endless comments on radiation risks are so imbalanced that they are essentially delusional.

I have nothing against you personally, I just think you're making distorted claims out of touch with the scientific and public health issues involved.

Stewart Farber, MS Public Health
Director - Radium Experiment Assessment Project [REAP]
webpage: http:/www.delphi.com/carsreap

<<<<< END OF STEWART FARBER'S SEPTEMBER 12th, 2001 LIBELOUS LETTER TO RUSSELL HOFFMAN <<<<<

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