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[] Re(DOE) intent to prepare a pr When I attempted to open the attachment to your email message, I was notified that it might contain a virus. Therefore, I did not open the file. Can you please print the attchment and fax it to me at the toll-free fax number 877- 562 4592? Thanks.
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Author: rhoffman@animatedsoftware.com_at_INTERNET
Date: 10/4/99 11:50 AM
----- END OF INCOMING EMAIL FROM DOE -----
----- MY RESPONSE: -----
To: DOE Staff
From: Russell Hoffman (full contact information appears below)
Re: Your email to me of today (resend with clarification in first paragraph.)
Date: Oct 27th,1999
To whom it may concern;
Regarding your email shown below:
The document sent to you was in plain text email form, and there was no attachment. As far as I know, there was no virus. No one else (and I have sent out probably 10,000 emails since yours was sent) has reported a virus being received from me since long before yours went out (I was infected by a virus once, "Happy 99", but that was removed within hours, only a small handful of people were sent it by me, all were immediately alerted by phone, the person who sent it to me was notified, and I have since sent out probably 50,000 more emails without a problem (and taught several more about how to remove "Happy 99" from their systems).
The email you attached appears to be just a document file -- namely the one I sent.
Perhaps the attachment was created because the size of the document was larger than your email software could handle. It was about 28K.
When you say your software said it "might contain a virus" do you mean it said that because it found what it thought was a virus, or was it simply a generic message telling you that an attachment might contain a virus (which is certainly true, generically).
In any event I will fax the document as requested, and I thank you for getting back to me. I am very interested to know exactly what caused your problem, however, and will appreciate any additional light you can shed on the subject. The document is also available online (with some slight changes to the details about how radiation might affect human cells) as part of the newsletter at the following email address:
http://www.animatedsoftware.com/cassini/nltrs/nltr0203.htm
Thank you,
Russell Hoffman
Carlsbad, CA
(full contact information appears below)
P. S. I hope that the delay in contacting me is not indicative of DOE's overall ability to respond quickly to dangerous situations (though I believe it is). It is everyone's responsibility to notify the sender as soon as they believe they have been sent a computer virus, and since this letter was sent nearly a month ago, it means something has been delayed. If it's true (and I obviously don't for a moment think it is) that I sent you a virus, then I needed to know that, and as a computer user, and a member of the Internet community, it was DOE's duty to respond immediately to any such event.
It does not bode well for your ability to handle Y2K, especially with all the viruses that are expected that day.
I suggest you contact Mike Orton, in England, who appears to be quite an expert on how to protect yourself from viruses AND (this will please you, no doubt) worked virtually all his life in the field of nuclear energy and supports it. He and I disagree on numerous things, but not on the proper steps to take to protect the community from the coming Year 2000 cyber-attack which seems inevitable. I believe his advice on viruses is as good and as reasonable as any I have found, anywhere, and since it seems unlikely that DOE is properly protected or even understands the problem, (or they would have done the right thing in this instance), I strongly urge you to immediately contact Mr. Orton. I'm sure he will be delighted to advise you.
His email address is:
Mike-O
Mike_ORTON_HARLECH@compuserve.com
-- rdh
----- END OF MY RESPONSE -----
The next item in this newsletter contains one of several letters Mr. Orton has published about viruses. -- rdh
(4) Y2K Virus warning from Mike Orton:
As if the computer industry were not in enough trouble for causing the Y2K problem in the first place, the added danger of Y2K-related computer viruses is a disturbing fact we all need to contend with as well. -- rdh
----- INCOMING EMAIL FROM MIKE ORTON: -----
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 15:32:11 -0400
I agree about the virus problem. BUT. The SANS institute has issued a
warning that they expect the cyber-psychopaths to crawl out of the woodwork
and write many viruses that will trigger at the end of the century, and
probably for days/weeks? into 2000.
I think that most of the AV SW manufacturers expect the same.
I have increased my frequency of updating my search strings form weekly to
looking at the web site every time I log on and seeing if there has been an
update. This will be more important as we get to the Christmas-NW-Y2K
period.
It will be worth while looking at least daily.
I use f-prot www.complex.is, but Mcafee, Nortons, Thunderbyte etc all have
www sites where you can download today's
latest databases.
If you rely on snail mail and disks to update, have a Computer shutdown
holiday over y2K, as assuming the ISP's are able to keep the INTERNET up an
running, there is likely to be a lot of new viruses from info-warriors,
cyber-psychopaths,
me-tooers, and those who for various reasons want to damage modern society.
So if we want to keep this list going over the y2k holiday, we will need to
keep our AV software up to date.
There may even be those who are not using any form of protection.
All good systems such as the f-stopw part of f-prot can be configured to
check files at download, copying and opening.
If we all adopt such systems, we should go a long way to eliminating the
virus problem.
Mike Orton
From other emails Mr. Orton has posted, we know the following:
Mike Orton, CPhys., MInstP., DCT(Batt)., MSRP., Former Accredited Health Physicist, CEGB, National Power and Nuclear Electric Plc, Former AWRE and MOD Health Physicist.
Also, he tells us he has "40 years in the Nuclear Industry as a Professional Health Physicist with large involvement in computing."
The STOP CASSINI newsletter editor cannot understand Mr. Orton's support of nuclear power and weapons (indeed, I am currently working on a rebuttal to one of his letters posted on the Y2K-nuclear forum in September), but finds his computer virus advice invaluable. Readers are encouraged to contact Mr. Orton directly if they want further information about how to protect your computer systems from viruses. -- rdh
This is a continuation of one of the items in newsletter #215. -- rdh
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 11:52:24 +0000
Dear Bill and Paul:
Thank you for the informative listserve to date. I shall continue my
disarmament activities including Y2K nuclear and WASH, as I'm certain will
Ms. Slater, however would like to be removed from this list. There are
many sources to tap into for information and this listserve does duplicate
some information I get from other sources. PLEASE UNSUBSCRIBE.
Mr. Hoffman owes Ms. Slater a sincere apology. Her history of dedicated
work for disarmament spans a good many years and her accomplishments have
been many. She is highly regarded in the peace movement and does not
deserve the slander and insinuations put forward by Mr. Hoffman that she
may have intentionally tried to infect the listserve with a virus.
Peaceful solutions don't come from antagonistic finger-pointing nor can we
be a positive catalyst for change by being hostile to those working hard
for the same cause.
As I receive information specific to Y2K concerns, I will forward it to
your attention.
In peace,
c.
[my letter as published in newsletter #215 was included for reference -- rdh ]
From: Russell Hoffman
To Whom It May Concern:
I did not say, and don't see how anyone could think I said, that Ms Slater tried to infect us with a computer virus intentionally. I don't know why she did it, and I presumed it was an accident. However, I said her behavior in regards to the virus indicates probably a relatively low level of understanding of computers, not just for having sent it out in the first place (a mistake anyone can make; I did once) but also because (as far as I know) we who were sent the virus were not immediately informed of the circumstances of the virus (where it came from, how to remove it) by Ms Slater. And, if there was an apology, I missed it, as I stated.
Beyond all that, I stated that I am surprised and grieved that she would leave the Y2K-nuclear forum at all, for the reasons I stated. I stand by that view.
I have seen many people turn away from the Y2K-nuclear battle not because they don't understand the dangers of nukes, but because they don't understand the combined threat posed by nukes and computers (and government inertia). For example in my last STOP CASSINI newsletter (#214) I presented Karl Grossman's speech to the U.N. which he gave on October 21st, and I commented that it is too bad Karl isn't helping our Y2K campaign, but he is not a computer expert, and I don't think he feels competent to talk on the issue. He's an amazing person, and he personally brought me into the anti-nukes-in-space movement. We need his skills and his voice.
I doubt there is a better forum anywhere than the Y2K-nuclear list for the information from the Y2K-nuclear battlefront, and if there is a better news source somewhere, I'm sure everyone on the list would like to know what it is. However, many people are posting original messages on this forum, so I know much of the information that gets posted here is NOT being duplicated elsewhere, or if some of it is, you can still see it all here first, and time is short, so "first" matters. And don't we all know that an organized movement is sure to be the most effective? Splintering does us no good whatsoever.
If Ms Slater is highly regarded in the peace movement, that's nice and I'm glad to hear it. I hope she's effective. I hadn't happened to have heard of her, as I indicated, so I couldn't very well be commenting on anything but what came across on the Y2K-nuclear forum.
There are undoubtedly many in this movement who ARE frauds -- that is a fact which I think few would deny. Their purpose is to disrupt, to hurl insults over minor issues, to bog us down in irrelevant technicalities, to splinter the group, to be obstinate, to argue, to present false information, and generally, to slow us all down in any way possible. Anything but cooperate. Many of these behaviors also occur in people who are simply passionate. We each should do whatever we can not only to protect ourselves against those who are frauds, but also to make it clear to others that our own intentions are honorable. I don't think what Ms Slater did was very cooperative, and it was insulting to a lot of good people who post everything they can lay their hands on about the Y2K-nuclear debate here (Caldicott's NYT ad has been posted at least three or four times already), and it is especially insulting to those who write new material as well, for this list.
I'm sure hundreds of hours were wasted on everyone's part because of Slater's virus, and our thanks is that, with virtually no explanation, she leaves a few weeks later, less than 10 weeks before "the deadline". That is not good.
One of our Presidents -- I don't remember which one (Ford, I think, or Bush) -- said his staff should avoid even the appearance of impropriety. I think that is generally true for everyone. Even the appearance is to be avoided. You, Christa Rossner, whom I have never heard of before your letter of today, accuse me of slanderous remarks about Alice Slater -- for what? For calling a rose a rose and a spade a spade? For saying her leaving is insulting to all of us, and makes our group less powerful (unless of course, she's a fraud, in which case, good riddance and who cares)?
I don't believe my comments were slanderous in any way. However, calling them slanderous when they were nothing of the sort is certainly heading in that direction itself!
Thank you for the opportunity to explain.
Russell Hoffman
This resulted in some additional emails (at least one person thought I had said Karl Grossman wasn't working hard enough, which I neither said nor meant to imply), and then the matter was laid to rest. -- rdh
NASA needs to be told in no uncertain terms they have lied too often to the public and we want a SEA CHANGE away from their nuclear policies!
To learn about the absurd excuses NASA used to launch Cassini and its 72.3 pounds of plutonium in 1997, ask them for the 1995 Environmental Impact Statement for the Cassini mission, and all subsequent documentation. At the same time, be sure to ask them for ANY and ALL documentation available on future uses of plutonium in space, including MILITARY, CIVILIAN, or "OTHER" (just in case they make a new category somehow!). To get this information, contact:
Cassini Public Information
Daniel Goldin is the head of NASA. Here's his email address:
Here's the NASA URL to find additional addresses to submit written questions to:
http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/facts/HTML/FS-002-HQ.html
YOU HAVE A RIGHT TO KNOW WHAT NASA IS DOING TO YOUR HEALTH.
NASA should never have been allowed to launch monstrosities like Cassini and Galileo (which recently suffered a nine-hour "lost in space" anomoly (NASA calls it "safe mode" which is the opposite of what it really is) just before it did a flyby of Io), but the next breed -- such as Europa Orbiter and Pluto-Kuiper Express are not much better and the policy is being set for greatly increased rates of missions! The danger continues! To complain to NASA about their future nuclear space probes, here are two addresses you can use:
For Europa Orbiter:
For Pluto-Kuiper Express:
Be sure to "cc" the president and VP and your senators and congresspeople, too.
President Bill Clinton
Vice President Albert Gore
Secretary William Cohen
Secretary Bill Richardson
Always include your full name and postal address in all correspondence to any Government official of any country, because otherwise they will throw it out unread, or hand it directly to their police force to try to identify the author. (Thus, nothing good will come of it.) Also, ALWAYS include a personal message of some sort, indicating YOUR OWN VIEWS, even if you include a lot of material written by other people (me, for instance).
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Many of the issues presented by Russell Hoffman in this letter are based on conversations with Dr. John W. Gofman (who isolated the first working quantities of plutonium), the late Dr. Karl Z. Morgan (who was known as the "father of health physics"), Dr. Ernest Sternglass (who has done statistical studies about LLR), Dr. Jay Gould (ditto), Dr. Horst Poehler, Dr. Helen Caldicott, Dr. Ross Wilcock and dozens of activists, as well as many others on both sides of the nuclear debates, including ex military nuke expert Jack Shannon (responsible for the design of the D2G Navy reactor, the most widely used reactor in the U. S. navy), award-winning investigative reporter Karl Grossman, ecologist and human rights advocate Pamela Blockey-O'Brien, etc. Also, I've read a few dozen books on the various subjects. And scads of government documents purporting to explain how something so dangerous can be safe.
Professionally, my pump training software is used throughout the pump industry and even in some nuclear power plants around the world to train their staff about mechanical pumps. Any errors herein are regrettably my own, but I believe it would take an extremely unlikely preponderance of errors to invalidate my basic position on these issues.
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From: Mike-O
Mike_ORTON_HARLECH@compuserve.com
Subject: [y2k-nuclear] Re: Help me get off this list
To: "Russell D. Hoffman"
----- END OF INCOMING EMAIL FROM MIKE ORTON -----
(5) Y2K-nuclear (continuation of discussion from newsletter #215):
----- INCOMING EMAIL POSTED ON THE Y2K-NUCLEAR FORUM: -----
To: smirnowb@ix.netcom.com, pswann@easynet.co.uk
From: Christa Rossner
Subject: [y2k-nuclear] Re: Help me get off this list
Cc: aslater@gracelinks.org, rhoffman@mail.adnc.com
X-UIDL: 0b232802aa77c14a42f358668d2c5a84
----- END OF INCOMING EMAIL FROM CHRISTA ROSSNER TO THE Y2K-NUCLEAR FORUM -----
----- MY RESPONSE: -----
Re: comments about A Slater
Date: Oct 25th, 1999
Peace Activist
Carlsbad CA
----- END OF MY RESPONSE -----
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Here's NASA's "comments" email address:
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Europa Orbiter comments"
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