Copyright (c) 1999

To: Jonathan Haber

From: Russell Hoffman

Re: Your noflyby letter of this morning

Date: September 8th, 1999

Dear Jonathan,

What EXACTLY do you mean by "you were asked to by Joe and by five advisory members of noflyby"? Who asked you to "change your address"? Who are you giving the list to? Why not make it public so others -- who might already have been abused by your creepy friends at GN -- can use it? Those folks will hide it and thus destroy it and destroy its effectiveness and all you've worked for.

I'll be happy to pay the $45 bucks you say you need to keep the list active for another year, so you can think about it more clearly. But it would be easier and safer and longer-lasting (and cheaper) if you simply zipped up a copy of the site and let me make it available in that format (zipped) at my own web site as a historical document.

At least send it to me anyway in that format so that it's documented, okay? That bottom line is, WHY ARE YOU DOING THIS TO THE STOP CASSINI/ NNIS MOVEMENT?????

-- Russell D. Hoffman
...Who is in it for the long haul...

At 11:04 AM 9/8/99 -0400, you wrote:
Dear Flyby Feedback,

I may be changing my address before the millennium is over, since I was asked to by Joe and by five advisory board members of noflyby. I hope you subscribe to Global Network to keep active and informed on the dangerous nuclear power and weapons in space issue. I am happy to infrequently write to this list to forward or share perspectives and ideas, movements and technologies that could have a major impact. Why keep our ignorance or silence and keep sliding down the slippery slope where our species is threatening our own self-annihilation? I appreciate your concern and appreciation of sharing information on the close call Cassini Earth flyby. If you want to be removed from this list, please reply by adding "remove" in the subject field.

The following is correspondence with an individual on the noflyby feedback list regarding the article I recently sent on global warming.

best regards,
jonathan
http://www.nonviolence.org/noflyby

ps: the noflyby site will remain online until at least December 25, 1999. If I have or if we can raise $45 dollars, it will then be paid for another year. I hope we can keep it posted for an indefinite future, sharing clear information to expose the foolish risks taken for knowlegdge, fear and power.

At 02:07 PM 9/7/99 -0700, you wrote:
There is a 3,000 page report the scientist from a university of which I can't remember right off hand which proved there is no global warning, the Clinton administration (namely Al Gore) took about 100 pages out of the report and made them match his agenda.

i am not impressed by your reference to this 3,000 page document. i saw with my own eyes the charts of global warming temperatures, and the curve is very steep going up. you can track down the scientist woring on this project from the University of Massachusetts in Amherst. this doesn't mean that the next few years will continue this way, but it may, and evidences of water temperatures show this is liely. Warming could be caused by many factors, but most likely the addition into our atmosphere from excessive levels of carbon elements (mainly produced by the burning of fossil fuels and deforestation. the possible harm if true is catastrophe around our globe. i mainly believe that an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of the cure.. and in areas of such possible catastrophic consequences, i favor the side of caution and creativity. The oil companies can convert their investment into newer better technologies. my work on improving a stirling engine is to help in this direction. But the evidence of global warming is measurable, what is causing it can be debated, but probably a combination of many elements. i feel fortunate that i am working engineers on solar and other technologies that add no carbon emissions when generating the electricity that enables us to communicate.

regards,
jonathan

And if you think that is bunk than take the surplus taxes they are talking about. There is no surplus, what they are talking about is money in the social security fund that they usually spend on their special interests. The Clinton administration has turned global warming, tax surplus and a lot of other stuff to match their agenda and it is all smoke and mirrors.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jonathan Mark [mailto:noflyby@nonviolence.org]
Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 1999 1:52 PM
To: David
Subject: RE: Indifferent to a Planet in Pain

At 11:38 AM 9/7/99 -0700, you wrote:
If you believe in global warming, I have a bridge in Brooklyn I will sell you, or some ocean front property in Arizona. If you believe all this crap the government is feeding you about global warming you better get your act together. It is BS, there is no global warming, fact southern California has had the coolest summer in years.... So go hug a tree someplace and get a life.

are you serious? you are missing some very factual evidence of measurements that make global warming a statistical fact.. global, not one summer in southern california.

jonathan

-----Original Message-----
From: Jonathan Mark [mailto:noflyby@nonviolence.org]
Sent: Saturday, September 04, 1999 11:07 AM
To: David
Subject: Indifferent to a Planet in Pain

Dear NoFlyby Feedback,

I am forwarding this article that was published in today's New York Times, because there is a connection to our world's slow response to global warming and nuclear pollution. The writing is very insightful and thought provoking.

Life is special, take care, jonathan

ps anytime you want to remove your address from this list, please write, "remove noflyby feedback" in subject.

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September 4, 1999

Indifferent to a Planet in Pain

By BILL MCKIBBEN

JOHNSBURG, N.Y. -- As the hot sun sets on this long, odd summer, you might try staring into the nighttime sky. Several times in the last few months, observers in the lower 48 have seen "noctilucent clouds," which develop about 50 miles above the earth's surface -- clouds so high that they reflect the sun's rays long after nightfall.

They're spectacular -- and they're also out of place. These odd clouds belong in far northern and southern latitudes, but global warming seems to be driving them toward the Equator. The same carbon dioxide that warms the lower atmosphere cools the next layer -- the mesosphere -- causing the clouds to form.

Sightings as far south as Colorado are a big event, according to Gary Thomas, a professor at the University of Colorado's Laboratory for Atmospheric and Space Physics. "While they are a beautiful phenomenon," Professor Thomas told National Geographic's on-line magazine, "these clouds may be a message from Mother Nature that we are upsetting the equilibrium of the atmosphere."

Ten years ago, global warming was a strong hypothesis. Now, after a decade of intensive research, scientists around the world have formed an ironclad consensus that we are heating the planet. Almost daily some new piece of evidence appears; the weekly editions of the journals Science and Nature make "The Blair Witch Project" look like "The Baby-Sitters Club." Forget the piddling drought and heat wave that withered lawns and fields across the Northeast this summer. Consider the real news:

Spring comes a week earlier across the Northern Hemisphere than it did just 30 years ago. Severe rainstorms have grown by almost 20 percent, precisely what you'd expect on a planet where warmer air can carry more water vapor. A Navy sonar survey conducted this summer shows that the Arctic ice sheet is in many places 40 inches thinner than its normal 10 feet. Warmer waters have bleached coral reefs around the globe. Glaciers are melting. Sea levels are rising.

The question is not what we should do. Though it's far too late to prevent global warming, it takes no special insight to deduce the policies that would slow it down. Stiff increases in the price of fossil fuels would quickly bring a new generation of renewable energy technologies to the fore. Raising fuel-economy standards for cars and trucks would end the trend to ever-bigger sport utility vehicles. And focused diplomacy and foreign aid could keep developing nations from sliding into our bad habits.

No, the question is why we've done so little. In 1992, President George Bush promised the world that the United States would emit no more carbon dioxide in 2000 than it had in 1990. The Clinton Administration instead watched with little apparent concern as our emissions surged more than 10 percent. Congress refuses even to consider the baby step represented by the 1997 Kyoto accords, which would return us to 1990 levels by 2010. The issue barely even crops up in the Presidential campaigns.

The reason, I think, is that we don't yet feel viscerally the wrongness of what we're doing -- not just the very rational fears about what it will be like to live in a superheated world but, even more, the simple shock that we've grown so large we can dominate everything. Earthquakes and volcanoes are the only "natural disasters" left. Everything that happens above the surface comes at least in part from us, from our appetites and our economies.

I used to wonder why my parents' generation had been so blind to the wrongness of segregation; they were people of good conscience, so why had inertia ruled for so long? Now I think I understand better. It took the emotional shock of seeing police dogs rip the flesh of protesters for white people to really understand the day-to-day corrosiveness of Jim Crow.

We need that same gut understanding of our environmental situation if we are to take the giant steps we must take soon. Go outside: try to understand that the sun beating down, the rain pouring down, the wind blowing by are all now human artifacts. We don't live on the planet we were born on. We live on a new, poorer, simpler planet, and we continue to impoverish it with every ounce of oil and pound of coal that we burn.

In retrospect it will be clear. A hundred years from now, people may well remember the 1990's not as the decade of the Internet's spread or the Dow's ascension but as the years when global temperatures began spiking upward -- as the years when rain and wind and ice and sea water began irrefutably to reflect the power and heedlessness of our species. But how bad it will get depends on how deeply and how quickly we can feel.

It depends on whether we're still capable of shock.

Bill McKibben is the author of "The End of Nature," which will be reissued this month in an updated 10th-anniversary edition.

(7) What you can do today to stop NASA's nuclear madness:

NASA needs to be told in no uncertain terms NEVER to launch nuclear rockets of any type ever again!

To learn about the absurd excuses NASA used to launch Cassini and its 72.3 pounds of plutonium in 1997, ask them for the 1995 Environmental Impact Statement for the Cassini mission, and all subsequent documentation. At the same time, be sure to ask them for ANY and ALL documentation available on future uses of plutonium in space, including MILITARY, CIVILIAN, or "OTHER" (just in case they make a new category somehow!). To get this information, contact:

Cassini Public Information
Jet Propulsion Laboratory
4800 Oak Grove Drive
Pasadena CA 91109
(818) 354-5011 or
(818) 354-6478

NASA states that they do not have the resources anymore to answer most emails they receive. Liars! They have $13 billion dollars to play with. They can answer the public's questions!

Here's NASA's "comments" email address: comments@www.hq.nasa.gov

Daniel Goldin is the head of NASA. Here's his email address:
daniel.goldin@hq.nasa.gov or
dgoldin@mail.hq.nasa.gov

Here's the NASA URL to find additional addresses to submit written questions to:

http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/facts/HTML/FS-002-HQ.html

YOU HAVE A RIGHT TO KNOW WHAT NASA IS DOING TO YOUR HEALTH.

Be sure to "cc" the president and VP and your senators and congresspeople, too.

president@whitehouse.gov vice.president@whitehouse.gov

Always include your full name and postal address in all correspondence to any Government official of any country.

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